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My Take On 2.16.10: Against All Odds, NXT Is Next, Survivor Series Is Dead

February 16, 2010 | Posted by Larry Csonka


SURVIVOR SERIES IS DEAD!

RANKING The big news coming out of the latest WWE Investor’s phone call was that Vince McMahon has killed of another part of wrestling history. Vince put the nail in the coffin and proclaimed that the WWE Survivor Series, the second longest running WWE PPV, is done. McMahon’s statement was as follows…

“We think that Survivor Series is obsolete, as far as that title is concerned. It was something that worked many, many years ago, in terms of a creative standpoint, various teams competing. That really is not advantageous as the consumer now looks as what actually they are buying. And it’s such a broad … Survivor Series yes, many years ago, was one of the original four pay-per-views, but it’s outlasted its usage and it is one of the things in terms of rebranding, this year and going forward, that will be rebranded. No longer will we have that title, Survivor Series.”

Now the reality of this is that in many ways, the Survivor Series has been gone and dead for years. It started as teams of five strive to survive, and then turned into making teams of four is proving to be a chore. The main concept of the PPV was mainly abandoned, but the WWE had managed over the years to make the Survivor Series a brand name, like WrestleMania and the Royal Rumble. It was a show that would generally sell itself without the team concept that made it popular all those years ago. This year was not one of those years, as the show dropped nearly 85,000 buys from the year before to under 300,000 buys; not what the company wants from a big four PPV.

While I understand what they are doing, I do not think that blaming the concept and calling it dated or obsolete is the issue. Perhaps it was not making the show feel special. Perhaps it was that people didn’t care about big tag matches since they did a big tag match main event at Bragging Rights. Maybe it was the fact that there was only three weeks between the two PPVs, and not much time to build to things properly. Or perhaps no one wanted to see HHH vs. HBK vs. Cena. The angle leading into the match was all bullshit and giggles, and then you add into the fact that DX hasn’t been a real draw since they reformed, and no, popping one or two buy rates doesn’t make you a draw. Perhaps those are the real issues, and not the concept that has made you money for years.

In closing I want to address the people that are complaining about the possible replacement for the show. I keep reading “how dare WWE replace Survivor Series with a shitty gimmick PPV.” Newsflash kids, the Survivor Series WAS a gimmick PPV when it first started. Don’t get me wrong; I am with you on the overuse of the gimmick PPV. It cries out of lazy booking and ruins the gimmick matches that WERE at one time special. But get your facts straight before you complain.

ECW IS DEAD, WHAT’S NXT?

RANKING And speaking of losing another part of wrestling history, we all know by now that the latest version of ECW, “WW-ECW” as some like to call it is about to die as well. I am not going to get on a big nostalgia trip about the original ECW, but I will say that the original ECW has been and will be missed by many. When WWE brought it back, Shane McMahon was a big part of it. Shane felt that ECW, coming back with the support of WWE, could survive and thrive where the invasion failed. He wanted to be a mix of the old ECW guys, new talent, and guys WWE would consider casting off. He wanted it to be a rogue brand with little affiliation with the other shows. He wanted it to be different. But different is bad in WWE, and we ended with the brand eventually being watered down into a developmental show on SyFy. It wasn’t all-bad, I will not ay that at all, but it could have been more.

ECW is dead, long live WWE NXT. That’s the plan anyway. I am not going to slam the concept right off the bat. First of all, ECW wasn’t what ECW should have been, so you may as well get rid of it. Secondly, WWE Developmental is a pile of shit. I said the day that they closed Deep South that they would have issues, and when they decided to just go with FCW, I said that the system would NOT work the way should. And with OVW no longer a viable option due to WWE getting rid of them, FCW hasn’t done shit to develop NEW talent. The talent that is going through there, either with lots of experience or very little, get thrust onto WWE TV and most fail because we have no reason to care about them. But it seems as of the goal of NXT is to provide a safe environment where these guys can develop personalities and so that the “WWE Universe” can have a chance to develop an attachment with them before they go to a major show. Certainly not the worst idea I have heard. But what should they model the show after? How should they make a system where guys will work, be able to get people to care and then earn their way onto Raw or Smackdown? Surely they need something to fight for, something that shows that they have earned their way onto the bigger shows. The answer is simple…

WMAC MASTERS~!

That’s right, my guilty pleasure of 1996 could in some ways be a model for the WWE NXT show. For those that never saw this gem, it was actually a lot of fun. This was a scripted martial arts show, basically pro wrestling. You had a
champion, the holder of the Dragon Star. The Dragon Star was an eight-sided star, and the point stood for Discipline, Courage, Forgiveness, Compassion, Honor, Wisdom, Loyalty and Respect. Each fighter is on a journey to face the holder of the Dragon Star. Each man had a belt, and once they defeated a fighter in the final match on the show (in the Battledome), they get that fighter’s symbol and add it to their belt. Once the belt is full with 10-different symbols, they get to challenge for the Dragon Star. If they beat the Dragon Star Champion, they get the Dragon Star and Master Status, of they lose, they lose all symbols on the title and have to start over. During the show, you would often see the various fighters working out at the WMAC gym, their interaction away from fighting. They made an effort to create heels and faces during the two-seasons of the show, and it provided a nice break in the action. There were relationships, young up and comers, the old warhorse looking for one more chance, the full cast of characters.

It has been said that the series concept of NXT will be a “reality” based series featuring new talents who viewers will be able to follow both in and out of the ring, like a combination of WWE Tough Enough and the UFC’s Ultimate Fighter, with the talents feuding with each other to become the next big WWE star. They will also use current stars to speak with the guys, like mentors, and there will also be others creating obstacles for the new guys. By using some of the WMAC Masters concepts, you could keep the ECW Title (Dragon Star), and when a NXT competitor gains 5, 10, 15 or whatever points, he can challenge the ECW Champion. If the NXT competitor wins the ECW title, that will be his pass out of NXT and onto a show of his choice. Who says mid-90’s TV can’t teach you anything?


TNA AGAINST ALL ODDS!

THE RESULTS
* 8-Card Stud Tournament Quarter Final Match: Pope D’Angelo Dinero defeated Desmond Wolfe via pin @ 7:38 {***}
* 8-Card Stud Tournament Quarter Final Match: Matt Morgan defeated Hernandez via pin @ 8:58 {*½}
* 8-Card Stud Tournament Quarter Final Match: Mr. Anderson defeated Kurt Angle via pin @ 9:49 {***¼}
* 8-Card Stud Tournament Quarter Final NO DQ Match: Abyss defeated Mick Foley via pin @ 7:44 {*}
* The Nasty Boys defeated Team 3D via pin @ 10:40 {ASS}
* 8-Card Stud Tournament Semi-Final Match: Pope D’Angelo Dinero defeated Matt Morgan via pin @ 8:30 {**}
* 8-Card Stud Tournament Semi-Final Match: Ken Anderson defeated Abyss via pin @ 8:07 {*¾}
* TNA World Title Match: AJ Styles defeated Samoa Joe via pin @ 21:27 {***¾}
* 8-Card Stud Tournament Final Match: Pope D’Angelo Dinero defeated Ken Anderson via pin @ 15:45 {**½}

MY TAKE ON THE SHOW

  • The first thing I want to say about the PPV is that I strongly feel that they should have had the quarter final matches on TV, or at the very least dumped the tag team match to hold things to eight matches max. This is one problem that TNA continues to have, and that is adding too many matches on PPV. At least this wasn’t trying to fit 50 people on the show, but still, more isn’t always more.
  • The opening match was a fine opening contest. The crowd was into Pope huge, and not only was it a tournament match, but it was playing off of a feud that these guys had going. It is very obvious that they are high on Pope, and not that high on Wolfe, which is a shame because ha does have a lot too offer. Anyway, for the time given, they worked a strong and effective match, that also delivered a clean finish for The Pope. This was a fine way to kick off the show and you can’t ask for much more considering the time they were given.
  • We dropped down in quality next as Morgan faced off with Hernandez. This was your typical example of TAG TEAM PARTNERS THAT CANNOT GET ALONG! It wasn’t all bad, Morgan showed some good heel tendencies, but they should be working to solidify the team, which they threw together, and not trying to break them up already. Also, the cross body catch spot in the middle was a bad idea, as I thought they were going to seriously hurt each other. Finish was creative as the heat goes on Morgan, but again, we have seen the TAG TEAM PARTNERS THAT CANNOT GET ALONG deal so many times, I just do not care.
  • Anderson vs. Angle was up next, and I was very curious to see how they would book this. The good news is that they did not resort to the old TNA booking of run ins and bullshit. Actually this was a quality match that did a lot to make Anderson a believable heel, which to this point he had not been for the company. I know that Anderson gets a lot of shit for his ring work, and I did not enjoy his debut, but he and Angle worked well together. Anderson using Angle’s medal to gig Angle was a good call, and immediately created sympathy or Angle. I also thought that the exposed buckle finish was a good way to give Anderson a “clean win” over Angle, but also at the same time, it protects Angle and gives you the rematch option due to the nefarious means. This was fine by me, and I wouldn’t mind seeing them in a longer, more wide-open match.
  • Mick Foley and Abyss was up next. They met with Bischoff before the match, who did a magical mid-PPV change to no DQ for the match. It fit the angle, I will give them that, but they just should have announced it on Thursday. The story was that Bischoff wanted them to kill each other, and of they took it easy, that he would unmask Abyss. Abyss kept refusing to use the barbed wire bat, and the tacks, but in the end, after some bad work and stupidity with the socks, he black hole slammed Foley into the tacks, and took the win. It was what it was, which wasn’t good.
  • And then we got the gem of the evening, The Nasty Boys vs. Team 3D. Holy hell this was bad. Knobs looked like he was about to have a heart attack, he and Saggs looked as if they were moving in slow motion, they stalled a ton, Team 3D, Ray in particular, were trying to bust ass to make this worth it, and failed. Add into it that Saggs couldn’t even take a Rock bottom, and then you add into it that Jimmy hart debuts and the Nasty Boys win? And these guys got nearly 11-minutes? And they saved the first run in and shenanigans of the night for THESE guys?
  • The first semifinal match was Pope vs. Matt Morgan. Try as they might, the guys just could not get the crowd into the match. It wasn’t bad, but I really think the audience doesn’t dig Morgan. Pope worked hard, sold well, but even his comeback wasn’t nearly as hot as it should have been, especially considering the reactions he got earlier in the night. The match was fine, although it felt like Steamboat vs. Flair after the Nasty’s vs. 3D match. The important thing again was that there was no bullshit, and Pope won CLEAN, creating good momentum and also making the wins mean something.
  • The second semifinal match was a rematch between Abyss and Ken Anderson. It was just there, and never seemed to kick into gear. I will say that Anderson’s heel work again was good, as in this match he kept trying to mess with the mask of Abyss. That played into the finish, as Anderson twisted the mask of Abyss, who then goozled the ref. Anderson got the low blow and mic check for the win. I’ve seen worse, but it could have been better.
  • They worked the TNA Title match before the main event spot on the show, and while it was a good match, it wasn’t at the level that you expect from Joe and AJ. Please don’t get me wrong, the match was not bad by any means, but it was a case of working an angle as more important than the match. They teased Flair and Bischoff’s hate, they had Hogan lecture Bischoff, and the culmination of the match wasn’t about AJ and Joe, but instead it was about Bischoff punching Flair. Sure Joe got the visual pin, but it wasn’t about him, and it wasn’t about AJ. It’s a shame when you take the focus off of the competitors to place it on Bischoff and Flair. The match was good, but less bullshit and more Joe vs. AJ is what was needed.
  • Before the main event, which was Anderson vs. Pope, both guys cut promos. Pope got jumped by Hall and Pac, who apparently have ninja skills and were not seen sneaking into the building. Pope would crawl his way to the ring, only to get beat down by Anderson repeatedly. After some beatings by Anderson, Pope made it back into the ring, only for more beatings. I truly get the point of the attack, as they were trying to make the Pope even more sympathetic as the face, and also play into the true dick that Anderson was playing all night. And I feel that it worked. I freely admit that the beat down Anderson was giving was slow, but it picked up and the finish was great and got the pop/moment that they were looking for. Anderson proclaims on his mic that he is Ken-Ton Bomb, and Pope then gets the DDE for the win. It did go too long, but I feel that this was an effort to make Pope a star. They now have plenty of time to build to the title match at Lockdown. Pope has the win over AJ on Impact, as well as the big tournament run to play off of. It could be pretty interesting.
  • Overall: The show was a mixed bag, and in the end an average show leaning too good. While I felt as if the match order wasn’t right, the times the matches got was not right (opener should have been longer, Morgan/Hernandez and Foley/Abyss needed to be shorter, Angle needed to go 15 if he was working once, 3D/Nasty’s needed to be shorter, main event needed to be shorter, for example), 3D vs. The Nasty’s sucked that they are falling back into old habits, but there were positives. Pope vs. Wolfe was a good opener, Anderson vs. Angle was also a good match and the TNA Title match delivered in the ring, although I stand by my issues with the booking. People always want guys to be made stars, and they did that with Pope. Obviously the booking has to follow it and properly build to the title match. The good news is that the show was better than Genesis.

    SHOW RATING: 6.9

    411 RATINGS SCALE:
    0 – 0.9: Torture
    1 – 1.9: Extremely Horrendous
    2 – 2.9: Very Bad
    3 – 3.9: Bad
    4 – 4.9: Poor
    5 – 5.9: Not So Good
    6 – 6.9: Average
    7 – 7.9: Good
    8 – 8.9: Very Good
    9 – 9.9: Amazing
    10: Virtually Perfect


  • LARRY’S RANKINGS THUS FAR FOR 2010
    Rankings may change through out the year upon a second, third, tenth, one hundredth viewing…
  • 2010’s TOP PPVs:

    DG USA Freedom Gate {8.5}

    TNA AGAINST ALL ODDS {6.9}
    WWE ROYAL RUMBLE {6.5}

    TNA GENESIS {5.0}

  • 2010 TOP PPV Matches:

    Masato Yoshino and Naruki Doi defeated Dragon Kid and Shingo Takagi (DG USA Freedom Gate) {****½}

    TNA WORLD TITLE MATCH: AJ Styles vs. Kurt Angle (TNA Genesis) {****¼}
    YAMATO defeated Davey Richards (DG USA Freedom Gate) {****¼}

    The Royal Rumble Match (The Royal Rumble Match) {****}

    TNA TITLE MATCH: AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe (TNA Against All Odds) {***¾}

    OPEN THE FREEDON GATE TITLE MATCH: Elimination Rules: BxB Hulk defeated Cima, Akuma and Yamato (DG USA Freedom Gate) {***½}
    Desmond Wolfe vs. Pope D’Angelo Dinero (TNA Genesis) {***½}
    WORLD TITLE MATCH: The Undertaker vs. Rey Mysterio (WWE Royal Rumble) {***½}

  • 2010’s PPV MVPs:
    Not every PPV will have one, it just depends on who I think steps up and deserves some extra recognition.

    TNA GENESIS – Kurt Angle and AJ Styles: Delivering Once Again
    DG USA FREEDOM GATE – BxB Hulk: Double Duty To Become The Champion
    WWE ROYAL RUMBLE – Edge: He’s Back!
    TNA AGAINST ALL ODDS – Pope D’Angelo Dinero – Pope Is Pimpin!

  • 2010’s TOP TV Matches:
    I will update as often as needed. I sometimes get behind on programming, so there may be delays.

    The Young Bucks vs. The American Wolves (ROH ON HDNET 02.08.10) {****¼}

    CM Punk vs. Rey Mysterio (WWE Smackdown 02.12.10) {****}
    TNA World Title Match: AJ Styles vs. Kurt Angle (TNA IMPACT 1.04.10) {****}

    Davey Richards vs. Roderick Strong (ROH ON HDNET 1.04.10) {***¾}

    Shawn Michaels vs. Rey Mysterio (WWE Smackdown 1.29.10) {***½}
    WWE Unified Tag Team Title Match: DX vs. Jeri-Show (WWE RAW 1.04.10) {***½}
    Colt Cabana and Tyler Black vs. Austin Aries and Kenny King (ROH on HDNet 1.18.10) {***½}
    Mark Briscoe vs. Jay Briscoe (ROH on HDNet 1.18.10) {***½}


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